I was of the mistaken belief that the Muslims do not resort to the insidious and the repulsive habit of converting people by sweet talk like the Christians.

And that they were more direct.

Either get converted or be killed was their refrain.

In fact I wrote in a post that this is much better than the sweet talking education running NGO operations of Christians for youvat least know they are attemoting Religious Conversion.

And Islam never resorted to this technic.

How wrong have I been!

I read a news item in The Tamil Hindu that Muslims were engaged in proselytising at the sacred , Divya Desa of Lord Vishnu as Parthasarathy in Triplicane, Chennai, Tamil Nadu.

For the benefit of readers who may not know Tamil.

An old  lady was being brainwashed by  a Muslim pretending to be of a man with an open mind by showing her images from Discovery channel the Solar family trying to convince her that such an orderly Universe needed a maker and that is Allah.

The lady handled him adroitly quoting our scriptures.

The man was helpless and another man gave this man a sign that this ‘case’ was useless.

What can I say about this conversion right at the step of a sacred temple!

Triplicanites!?

Muslim attempting to convert Hindu lady to Islam.

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February 18, 2016
– அரவிந்தன் நீலகண்டன்

சனிக் கிழமை மாலை 5:30 அல்லது 6 மணி இருக்கலாம். திருவல்லிக் கேணி கோவில் வளாகத்தில் ஒரு காட்சியை காண நேர்ந்தது. கோவில் வந்திருக்கும் ஒரு முதிய பெண்மணியிடம் ஒரு இளைஞர் தமது செல்போனை காட்டி ஏதோ விவரித்து கொண்டிருந்தார். அந்த இளம் சகோதரர் ஒரு இஸ்லாமியர். ‘படைத்த இறைவன் ..’ என்றெல்லாம் வார்த்தைகள் காதில் விழுந்தன. நிச்சயமாக தனிப்பட்ட உரையாடல் அல்ல என திட்டவட்டமாக தெரிந்த பிறகு அவர்கள் அருகில் சென்றோம். சென்றோம் என்றால் ம.வெங்கடேசனும் நானும். ம.வெங்கடேசன் வெளிவர உள்ள ‘ஹிந்துத்துவ அம்பேத்கர்’ நூலின் ஆசிரியர். நாங்கள் வந்ததை அன்பான புன்னகையுடன் ஆமோதித்தார் அந்த இஸ்லாமிய இளைஞர்….

இது டிஸ்கவரி சேனலில் உள்ள வீடியோ’ என்று தம் செல்போனில் சூரிய குடும்பம் குறித்த கிராபிக்ஸை காட்டி விளக்கினார் அந்த சகோதரர். கனிவான பண்பட்ட வார்த்தைகள். கேட்பவரை எவ்விதத்திலும் புண்படுத்திவிடலாகாது என்பதில் அதிக கவனத்துடன் தேர்ந்தெடுக்கப்பட்ட வார்த்தைகள். அந்த வயதான மூதாட்டி அமைதியாக கேட்டுக் கொண்டிருந்தார். ‘இப்படிப்பட்ட சூரிய குடும்பமே ஒரு பெரும் பிரபஞ்சத்தின் சிறிய பகுதி. என்றால் அதை படைத்தவனை குறித்து நாம் சிந்திக்க வேண்டாமா? அவன் எவ்வளவு பெரியவனாக இருப்பான்!’. அந்த அம்மணி அமைதியாக ‘இதைத்தானப்பா நாங்களும் சொல்கிறோம்.. பகவான் உலகத்தை படைத்து சம்ரக்ஷித்து கொண்டிருக்கிறார். அதற்கென்ன இப்போ!’ என்றார். சரி நம் பங்குக்கு ஏதாவது சொல்ல வேண்டுமே என்று தோன்ற, வழக்கமான வாதத்தையே முன்வைத்தேன், ‘இவ்வளவு பிரபஞ்சத்தையும் படைத்தவன் படைக்கப்படாமல் தோன்றினால் இந்த பிரபஞ்சத்துக்கு மட்டும் படைப்பவன் தேவையா?’ அந்த சகோதரர் மாறாத நிர்விகல்ப புன்னகையுடன் ’நீங்க பேசுறது வாதம். நான் சொல்றது கருத்து. நான் வாதத்துக்கு வரலை’ என்றார். தெளிவு!

‘இல்லை படைக்கப்பட்டதன் ஒழுங்கின் அடிப்படையில் படைத்தவன் குறித்து சிந்திக்கிறதுனாலே அங்கே தர்க்கம் வாதம் வந்துருதுல்ல…’ என்று ஆரம்பித்தவனை அந்த வைணவ மூதாட்டி வெட்டினார். முஸ்லீம் நாச்சியார் கதையை சொன்னார். எப்படி பெருமாளிடம் மனம் பறி கொடுத்த இஸ்லாமிய இளவரசி இறுதியில் பரந்தாமனுடனேயே கலந்தார் என்பதை அந்த கொஞ்ச நேரத்துக்குள் விளக்கினார். ‘சரி சொல்லுங்க தம்பி’ என்று அந்த இஸ்லாமிய சகோதரரை பார்த்தார். ’எனக்கு…எனக்கு சொல்ல எதுவும் இல்லை. இதுக்கு என்ன சொல்றதுன்னே தெரியலை’ என்றார். அந்த இஸ்லாமிய சகோதரரே நாளைக்கு திருவல்லிக்கேணி மீசைக்கார தேரோட்டியின் பக்தனாகிவிடுவாரோ என்று எனக்கே ஒரு நிமிஷம் தோன்றியது நிஜம்.

‘சரிங்க . ஒரு முக்கியமான இந்து கோவில் முன்னாடி உங்க மத பிரச்சாரத்தை செய்றீங்க. இதே போல இந்துக்கள் உங்க மசூதி முன்னாடி அவுங்க பிரச்சாரத்தை செய்ய அனுமதிப்பீங்களா?’ என்றேன். ஒரு நிமிஷம் தயங்கி ‘ஓ செய்யலாமே’ என்றார். அந்த வைணவ மூதாட்டி மிகவும் யதார்த்தமாக ‘அதெல்லாம் முடியாது தம்பி சும்மா சொல்லாதீங்க’ என்று சொன்னார். அதற்கிடையில் எங்கிருந்தோ இன்னும் இரண்டு பேர் வந்தார்கள். அவர்கள் இவரை போல சாதுவாக எல்லாம் இல்லை. ‘கொடுத்தஇலக்கை குறிவைக்காமல் இவங்க இங்க எதுக்கு’ என்கிற கேள்வி அவர்கள் எங்களை பார்த்த பார்வையிலேயே தெரிந்தது. சரி என்று அந்த சகோதரர் வைத்திருந்த ‘மனிதனுக்கேற்ற மார்க்கம்’ என்கிற பிரச்சார பிரசுரத்தை வாங்கிக் கொண்டு நடையை கட்டினோம்.

தமிழ்நாடு தவ்ஹீத் ஜமாத் வெளியீடு ‘மனிதனுக்கேற்ற மார்க்கம்’. ஆசிரியர் ஜைனுல் ஆபிதீன். திருச்சி ஷிர்க் மாநாட்டை நடத்திய அதே இயக்கத்தினர்தான். இந்து கோவில்களிலும் இஸ்லாமிய பிரச்சாரத்தை செய்கிறார்கள். அடிப்படையான சமுதாய நல்லிணக்கம் என்று ஒன்று இருக்கிறது. ஒரு வித பண்பாட்டு புரிதல். பன்மை மத நம்பிக்கைகள் கொண்ட சமுதாயம் இது.
Citation and reference.

<a href=”http://www.tamilhindu.com/2016/02/கோயில்-வாசலில்-அன்னியமதப/“>http://www.tamilhindu.com/2016/02/கோயில்-வாசலில்-அன்னியமதப/

‘ वालखिल्या
Valakhilyas are a group of divine sages, who are small of body, but great in their ascetic powers. Indeed, according to the Mahabharata, they are only as large as a thumb. Unlike the SaptaRishis, their names are not individually spelt out.

When Kashyapa performed a sacrifice, all deities and sages were asked to contribute.

Indra brought a whole mountain of trees for firewood, but the Valakhilyas were able to bring only a single twig amongst themselves.

Vishnu in Garuda Vahana

Indra made fun of them, and they cursed that his slayer would be born as the son of Kashyapa.

The sages were the size of the thumb but were very powerful due to their piety, Brahmacharya and intense penance. Once, Indra and the Valakilyas were on their way to the ashram of Sage Kashyapa to attend a yajna.

Indra, the king of celestial beings, was haughty and arrogant and this behavior often caused problems to the celestial world. On the way to the ashram, Valakilyas had fallen into water collected in a hoof mark left by a passing animal. Indra, who soon reached the spot, mocked at the tiny sages who were in a puddle and sped away.

Sage Kashyapa received Indra but was a worried man because Valakilyas had not yet reached. Indra then jokingly narrated what had happened and asked Sage Kashyapa to not to wait for the tiny sages.

Sage Kashyapa narrated how powerful the Valakilyas were and he also warned Indra that they might be performing a yajna to replace Indra as the king of Devas.

Soon Indra and Sage Kashyapa reached the spot of the yajna and asked the Valakilyas to desist from it.

The sages relented and said that the one to come from the yajna would Pakshindra, king of all birds, and that bird was Garuda.

With the blessing of Valakilyas, Sage Kashyapa became the father of Garuda.

As Indra made fun of them, they cursed that his slayer would be born as the son of Kashyapa.

However, when Indra apologized and Brahma intervened on his behalf, they modified the curse that the son shall be initially an enemy of Indra, but later will become his friend.

Valakhilya hymns, eleven in number, are the appendix of the eighth Mandala of the Rig Veda. But famous commentators like Sayana rejected them as interpolations. The Ramayana and the Mahabharata have a lot of references to the Valakhilya Rishis.

Valakilyas in Tamil Literature.

Ancient Sangam Tamil literature refers to Valakhilyas in Puranaanuru (verse 43), Tirumurugatrup patai (lines 16-109), post Sangam book Silappadikaram (Vettuvavari 15) and in the poems of middle age poet Arunagirinathar.

The Rig Veda says that they sprang from the hairs of Prajapati Brahma. They are the guards of the Chariot of the Sun. They are also called the Kharwas. The Vishnu Purana describes them as pious, chaste and resplendent as the rays of the sun.

Tamil literature is very clear in saying that the main task of the short and smart ascetics is to prevent human beings from being scorched. So they absorb the excess heat from the sun by travelling in front of him. Tamil books also add they were in turn given energy by Lord Skanda and Goddess Durga.

Even the hunters in the forest pray to Durga for this. Another Tamil poet compares the sacrifice of the Valakhilyas to the sacrifice of the Emperor Sibi who gave his flesh to an eagle to save a pigeon. The famous story of Sibi was referred to in four Sangam Tamil books. Sibi was praised as the forefather of the famous and powerful Tamil Chola dynasty. The food of Valakhilyas is only wind.

Citation and reference.

http://swamiindology.blogspot.in/2011/12/valakhilyas-60000-thumb-sized-ascetics.html?m=1

There is a Sloka that is to be recited before going to bed at night.

KASI Snanam

Kishkinda Bhojanam

Chidambara Darisanam

Siva Siva Nataraja.

Kasi.

This Sloka ensures undisturbed sleep.

I shall explain the significance of this sloka in another article.

Why is that Kasi also called as Benares,

Varanasi is so important that Hindus flock to this city throughout the year, offer oblations to ancestors and oneself and why the Ithihasas Ramayana and Mahabharata, the Puranas speak highly of Kasi?

The first important reason is its antiquity.

Kasi enjoys the distinction of being the most continuosly lived city of the world.

Its history dates back to Vedic Times.

‘There is hardly any city in the world that can claim greater antiquity, greater popular veneration than Banaras”- P V Kane.

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The earliest human occupation in Varanasi is found in the Atharvaveda (5-22-14).

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Mahājanapada (Sanskrit महाजनपद) (literally “great realm”, from maha, “great”, and janapada “foothold of a tribe”, “country”) is one of the sixteen kingdoms or oligarchic republics that existed in ancient India from the sixth centuries BCE to fourth centuries BCE. Ancient Buddhist texts like theAnguttara Nikaya^[1] make frequent reference to sixteen great kingdoms and republics which had evolved and flourished in a belt stretching from Gandhara in the northwest to Anga in the eastern part of the Indian subcontinent and included parts of the trans-Vindhyan region,^[2] prior to the rise of Buddhism in India.

Kasi is one of these tribes inhabiting the area.

The worship of Shiva precedes Vedas and there are evidences that Dravidian tribes were also living here.

Not only this.

Kassites who ruled Babylonia from 1500 BCE, but settled there from 1800 BCE bore names in a language related to Sanskrit.

Like Mitanni, who have very pure Sanskrit names (from 1400 BCE), they also spoke a language related to Sanskrit.

The fact is that they migrated from Gangetic plain, like Saurashtra (Zoaraster) migrated to Iran from Saurashtra coast of Gujarat (Please read Kanchi Paramacharya’s (1894-1994) talk on Zoaraster/Saurashtra.

Also read my article on Mittani Empire where I have detailed the Mittani link to Tamils.

Buddha used to frequent Kasi and two of the Jain Thirthankaras were raised here.

Adi Shankaracharya,Ramanujacharya and Madhvacharya, the three pillars of Hinduism visited Kasi

The Vedas are dated sometime around 5000 BC.

I have published articles to theceffect the Vedas can becdated much earlier.

So Kasi is at least 7000 years old.

The spiritually correct name of Kasi is Avimukta.

There is a legend that the name Kasi is due to the two small rivers that flow Kasi, Varana and Asi before they join the Ganges.

Pottery belonging to 800 BC has been enearthed here.

Even before Vedic times Ajivakas and Kaapalikas and Paspathad whovworship Shiva lived here.

Even today one can see Kaapalikas  and Aghoris on Kasi.

Such is the hold of Kasi on Hinduism that QutbuddinIbak had the temples in Kasi razed and Mosques built in 1194 and this tradition was continued till Aurangazeb. .

Kasi had over hundreds of Temples according to Hieun Tsang the chinese Traveler.

He states that there was a Shiva Statue of 30 Mtrs.

Citation andreferences.

http://hinduwebsite.com/hinduism/concepts/kasi.asp

http://tamilandvedas.com/tag/kasi/

As I have stated in the ‘About’ page of this blog, I started blogging because I wanted to share what interests me and what little I know.

Sites connected same Latitude.

As days went by the turned into one of focussing on Hinduism, Sanatana Dharma detailing the fundamentals of these .

How sites in the same Latitude vare connected.

Again this became into one of concentrating more on Vedas, explanation of hidden meanings of these texts.

On individual Gods Devi Upasna got the prime of place.

Golden Triangle.

Now it is becoming more research oriented on the spread of Sanatana Dharma throughout the world and the validation of Sanatana Dharma and Tamil texts.

Undervthis category most of them are proven whilecsome of them exploratory as the one ‘ Shiva Man God or Reality’

What is special about Sanatana Dharma is that it does not shackle you when you interpret or verify it.

And ,in Sanatana Dharma nothing is what it seems to be.

My conviction is that the Indian texts are records of knowledge and Wisdom unearthed by great men whose intention was to enlighten the world .

But this depends on one’s passion and the technology available .

Unfortunately, the present technology we have at our disposal is inadequate to explain most of what is found in these texts.

And many relics archaeological finds in the world defy one’s understanding.

I have explained in my blog such of those that ca be explained,like the Fibonacci sequence in the poem on Lord Krishna or the value of Pi in a poem, advanced concepts of Midern Science including Quantum Mechanics in Hinduism.

Also some curious world facts archaeological finds which can not be explained by others are verifiable with Hindu Texts.

I have a few readers who update the actual finding from US and Canada and I interpret them with Indian texts.

One such is the fact that twenty sites in the world lie in the same Latitude and the distance between them represent the Golden Means/ Fibanocci number.

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The Giza Pyramids, The Nazca Lines (large petro glyphs in the vast deserts of southern Peru), Angkor Wat (the magnificent temple complex in Cambodia), and Easter Island are all related. You can draw a straight line connecting each site across the circumference of the earth. This precision is followed within one tenth of a degree of latitude.

From Easter Island a 25,000 mile line (the exact length of the equator of the earth) can be drawn which connects to: Paracas, Nazca, Ollayantambo, Machu Picchu, Cuzco, Sacsayhuaman, Paratoari, Mali (where the Dogon tribe of the Sirius Mystery originates), Tassili N’Ajjer, Siwa Oasis, Giza, Petra, Ur, Persepolis, Mohenjo Daro, Khajuraho, Pyay, Sukhothai, Angkor Wat, and Preah Visear. This 25,000 mile line also happens to be at a 30 degree angle to the equator. Each of these sites are significant as spiritual centers, capitals, or sites where megalithic structures were built.

Of these twenty sites Easter Island,Machu Pichu , Nazca,Ankgorvat, PETRA,Mohenjo Daro, Khajuraho,Angkor Wat have Sanatana Dharma connections.

I have written on  Easter Island, Machu Pichu, Petra having  Shiva Temple.

The rest , Khajuraho, Mohenjo Daro Angkor vat are in India and I have written extensively on them.

Add to this the theory that Chidambaram , India being the Magnetic Centre of the Earth, three Shiva Temples  representing thecthree natural principles,in Tamil Nadu,Nataraja’s dancing pose is the exact reproduction of a Super nove Explosioin the distant past,there is some message in the sites I have mentioned.

My following posts shallvexamine them.

Now one more information on these 20 sites.

‘Mohenjo Daro, the lost city of the ancient Indus valley, is the site of a possible ancient atomic blast. Radioactive readings have been found there on par with that of the atomic site of Nagasaki in Japan. Some 44 skeletons were found here, flattened to the ground, still holding hands in some cases, as if incinerated in a moment’s notice. From the epicenter everything was crystalized and vitrified in correlation with what may have been an ancient atomic weapon. We can only explain this by vindicating accounts like those of the ancient Vedic texts such as the Mahabharata. And perhaps we are seeing substantial scientific evidence of the spiritual here at this site. The implications of each of these points is history redefining. Mohenjo Daro is also the origin of a still un-deciphered language which is remarkably similar to the language found on the Rongo-rongo boards from Easter Island, literally half the world away. 

Let’s look deeper at the connecting line between the main ancient sites of Giza, Nazca, Angkor Wat and Easter Island. Mohenjo Daro is located halfway between the Giza Pyramids and Angkor Wat. Mohenjo Daro is also located exactly opposite Easter Island on this same latitudinal line

. The hummingbird petroglyph of Nazca Peru is located directly opposite of Angkor Wat, Cambodia. You can draw a line from one to the other directly through the center of the earth and it would be off by a mere few tenths of a degree. This is incredible!’

These sites not only happen to be in a significant line, but in a significant ratio through which the encoded can be revealed. The ratio of the distances between these sites is equivalent to Pi which is shown in the brilliant work of Jim Alison. Alison found that the distance from Prassat Vihear of Angkor Wat, to the Pyramid of Giza is 4,754 miles (first 5 #’s of Fibonacci sequence #359 is 47542). From the Great pyramid, to the hummingbird of the Nazca lines of Peru, the distance is 7,692 miles (first 5 #’s of Fibonacci sequence #360 is 76924). From Nazca across the long side of the earth back to Angkor Wat the distance is 12,446 miles (first 5 #’s of Fibonacci sequence #361 is 12446)!!! This is not the only instance of this important ratio, or by any means the only connection like this. This axiom is found in thousands of sites, and still being uncovered in many more to this day.

What does this mean? First of all, these numbers indicate completely disconnected cultures somehow just so happened to place their structures on the same latitudinal line, and in a distance apart from each other which reflects Pi. Pi is so accurately reflected that it is maintained up to the first 500 numbers of the Fibonacci sequence.

What is the relevance of Pi? Pi (3.14159265359…) is a magical number whose decimals never end and never repeat. The Golden Number relates to harmonics, it is a proportion found everywhere in nature, and defines organic growth (2/3-1/3 or 1-1.6180399… and so on.) The golden spiral (the Fibonacci sequence) describes another perpetual sequence. (1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34, 55, 89, 144 etc.)’

I shall be posting more on this.

Citation and reference.

http://universalhiddeninsight.weebly.com/universal-articles/insights-our-ancient-past-decoded-the-secrets-of-energy-consciousness-and-the-nature-of-reality

About two years back I wrote an article that the skeleton of Gatotgaja, son of Bhima was found.
The information was from credible websites and I published the image of the Giant as well.
On publishing I received information that the news item on this fake and I checked with Hoaxslayer.com.
This site reconfirmed that the news was incorrect.
However I have found additional information that the original information that there were Giants is correct.
There is a systematic effort to deny such archological information relating to Human past especially if it relates to the so called scientific facts like Darwin’ s Evolution Theory.
Information relating to UFOS, evidence indicating the existence of advanced ancient civilisations like Atlantis, Lemuria, Hyperborea and the ancient Sanana Dharma are dismissed as myths for no valid reason.
Probably these western scholars are uncomfortable about the fact that there were more advanced Civilisations than the present one and they do not wish to contradict their strong belief that the great civilisations really came into being only after Greeks and Romans, however shaky these assumptions are.

There is abundance of research material available to prove the Atlantis, Lemuria, Huperborea Indian Purana Events and characters, UFOS and Giants.
It may interesting to note that most of the Giants are from the Patalaloka or the Nether World.

These were referred to as Rakshasas, Asuras.
Please refer my posts on this.
Also interesting to note that the present America was called the Patalaloka , California was called Kapila Aranya, Sage Kapila,s Forest and there is Mount Ashes near it as stated in Indian Purana.
Now to Giants.

‘

Nazca lines Peru , Shiva’s Trishul.

With Rosia Montana being a mining area, a number of interesting discoveries have been unearthed there over the years – one of the most interesting being a skeleton of a 10 meter (32.8 feet) tall giant which was found in 1976.

About 5,500 years ago, an underground gallery was constructed in the region by the Agathyrsi. In February 2012, a group of geologists followed the gold vein in the same place. They kept digging until they ended up at the base of the gallery. To their utter surprise, they found a gravestone which was definitely not made of common rock. The geologists took a sample, and the laboratory results revealed that the components of the tombstone included 55% 50 karat gold dust, 15% granite dust and 30% wolfram. Also, the analysis revealed that the composite rock had been made using a type of technology unknown today.

Giant Skeleton, Montana.

In February 2012, a group of geologists followed the gold vein in the same place. They kept digging until they ended up at the base of the gallery. To their utter surprise, they found a gravestone which was definitely not made of common rock. The geologists took a sample, and the laboratory results revealed that the components of the tombstone included 55% 50 karat gold dust, 15% granite dust and 30% wolfram. Also, the analysis revealed that the composite rock had been made using a type of technology unknown today.

The Hyperborean Gallery Known by the name of “The Hyperborean Gallery” or “Gallery 13”, the place of this amazing discovery is located beneath Cornea village. A number of other discoveries were made at the site in 1976. However, in the name of “security” the anthropological and archaeological discoveries were deemed too unusual and shocking for the time, so the gallery was permanently sealed. The gravestone was not the only unusual item found inside the gallery. On it, archaeologists found a 10 meter (32.8 ft.) tall skeleton of a giant. Apparently, the giant had been buried there after his death, with his legs gathered on one side. Lacking the proper equipment necessary to analyze such a find, the skeleton was sent to Moscow. Unfortunately, nothing has been reported about the giant ever since.

I was curious because Sananatana Dharma spread to all parts of the globe and archaeological finds confirm to this fact.

There arecare refernces to various land masses described in Hindu texts that tally with the present flora and fauna , mountains, rivers.

Plus when one checks their culture one finds the similarities and their roots go either to Sanatana Dharma or Tamils.

And Agastya pops up in many a place.

He is found on New Zealand.

Please check my posts on these.

There is a mountain in Romania  that has caves and these caves are connected to Kailash and Iraq.

I have found a research paper that talks about Agastya helping the Pandavas escape from the house of lac built by Duryodhana.

Agastya seems to have built 17 caverns for them to escape.

The dwelling place of the Rakshsas was called Patala Loka.

It was where Bhima of Mahabharata married Hidimbi and had a son through her Gatotgaja.

‘

the house of lac Agastya says that the opening of the underground
tunnel through which the Pandavas escape, is covered up with the
ashes of the burnt house.17 The narration of such details is of
no direct use to the story, that too for an epitome of the epic.
Yet it shows the minute observation and care of the poet in his
descriptions.

Agastya introdues the demon Hi^imba with eloborate detail.
The very narration presents his (demon's) physical form before our
mental eye. His reddened eyes shoot out sparks of his anger, his
face is terrific with its knotted eyebrows. The demon enters licking
his lips with his stretched tongue.

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This gives a vivid pen-portrait of the demon Hidimba. Agastya
excels in such artistic skills.

In an epitome the poet will not have much scope to convey his
own impressions of the characters. However a skilful writer makes
use of even the slightest opportunity to do so. This fact too has a
bearing on the style of the poet.

In the fifth canto Agastya finds an opportunity to introduce
some of the important features of the characters moulded by himself
in this Kavya. Through the words of Dhrstadyumna during the
course of introducing different suitors in the Draupadi swayamvara
episode Agastya gives expression to his own opinions. First he
introduces Duryodhana and specially praises him for his fortune
and wealth. He compares him to God Kubera. 18 Agastya writes
this with a special purpose. According to the tradition Kubera is
also known as a chief of evil beings or spirits of darkness.

– quote ends.

Note that Kubera the custodian of Wealth was assigned the Patala and he was defeated by Ravana who secured Lanka from him.

Now  most ofthe 26 tunnels found in Montana being ascribed to Agastya are associate with Water or Waterfalls.

And Sage Agastya is associted with bringing Kaveri River and he iscreported to have drunk the ocean, though the later is an allegory for Agastya travelling through the ocean.

Article on this follows.

Considering these similarities in the US, apart from a Quadrilateral temple of Shiva and a Natural temple of Vishnu in Grand Canyon, Colorado, further research is needed to establish Agastya connection to Montana Caves.

Montana caves

• Amphitheater Tunnel Number 4, Chouteau County, Montana,47°33′06″N 110°55′44″W, el. 3,376 feet (1,029 m)^[1]
• Beavertail Tunnel, Missoula County, Montana, 46°43′26″N113°34′59″W, el. 3,691 feet (1,125 m)^[2]
• Belt Creek Tunnel Number 5, Chouteau County, Montana,47°33′19″N 110°56′49″W, el. 3,307 feet (1,008 m)^[3]
• Bighorn Tunnel, Yellowstone County, Montana, 46°08′39″N107°31′11″W, el. 2,835 feet (864 m)^[4]
• Bozeman Tunnel, Gallatin County, Montana, 45°39′57″N110°48′29″W, el. 5,738 feet (1,749 m)^[5]
• Helena Valley Canal Tunnel, Lewis and Clark County, Montana, 46°38′35″N 111°45′20″W, el. 4,035 feet (1,230 m)^[6]
• John Tunnel, Sanders County, Montana, 47°20′06″N114°47′12″W, el. 2,680 feet (820 m)^[7]
• Lacey Tunnel Number 3, Chouteau County, Montana,47°32′58″N 110°55′01″W, el. 3,386 feet (1,032 m)^[8]
• Monitor Tunnel, Silver Bow County, Montana, 46°01′24″N112°28′32″W, el. 6,361 feet (1,939 m)^[9]
• Mullan Tunnel, Powell County, Montana, 46°38′11″N112°18′30″W, el. 5,830 feet (1,780 m)^[10]
• Nimrod Tunnels, Granite County, Montana, 46°42′35″N113°30′56″W, el. 3,681 feet (1,122 m)^[11]
• Painted Robe Tunnel, Golden Valley County, Montana,46°11′41″N 108°56′32″W, el. 3,763 feet (1,147 m)^[12]
• Ptarmigan Tunnel, Glacier County, Montana, 48°50′57″N113°42′28″W, el. 7,100 feet (2,200 m)^[13]
• Red Coulee Tunnel Number 6, Cascade County, Montana,47°33′14″N 110°57′15″W, el. 3,287 feet (1,002 m)^[14]
• St. Paul Pass Tunnel, Mineral County, Montana, 47°23′25″N115°38′55″W, el. 5,141 feet (1,567 m)^[15]
• Schurchs Tunnel, Powell County, Montana, 46°17′21″N112°33′48″W, el. 7,424 feet (2,263 m)^[16]
• Toston Tunnel, Broadwater County, Montana, 46°07′36″N111°26′32″W, el. 4,209 feet (1,283 m)^[17]
• Tunnel Number 1, Cascade County, Montana, 47°09′33″N111°49′52″W, el. 3,504 feet (1,068 m)^[18]
• Tunnel Number 1, Park County, Montana, 45°39′52″N110°44′03″W, el. 5,371 feet (1,637 m)^[19]
• Tunnel Number 2, Flathead County, Montana, 48°22′06″N113°40′31″W, el. 3,734 feet (1,138 m)^[20]
• Tunnel Number 3, Flathead County, Montana, 48°22′23″N113°40′55″W, el. 3,783 feet (1,153 m)^[21]
• Tunnel Number 3, Lewis and Clark County, Montana,47°06′32″N 111°57′03″W, el. 3,592 feet (1,095 m)^[22]
• Two Leggins Tunnel, Big Horn County, Montana, 45°58′22″N107°32′13″W, el. 2,789 feet (850 m)^[23]
• Vista Tunnel, Flathead County, Montana, 48°28′17″N114°26′33″W, el. 3,179 feet (969 m)^[24]
• Wayne Tunnel, Cascade County, Montana, 47°26′21″N110°56′35″W, el. 3,779 feet (1,152 m)^[25]
• Wickes Tunnel, Jefferson County, Montana, 46°19′48″N112°06′48″W, el. 6,224 feet (1,897 m)^[26]

Citation and references.

http://www.ancient-origins.net/myths-legends/exposing-secret-history-giants-and-underground-hyperborean-gallery-romania-005243  (images and on montana link)

https://archive.org/stream/BalaBharataACriticalStudy/TXT/00000185.txt

( Agastya building tunnels)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tunnels_in_Montana

( Montana tunnels  List).

I had posted an article on Daily Worship of Five Deities Panchayatana Puja.

I had provided a Link for the Mantras.

The Link does not seem to work any longer..

This has been brought to my notice by readers.

I am furnishing the Text for the Panchayatana Pooja.

Panchayana Pooja

I thank Mr.K. N. Ramesh for the text.

There are some who include Lord Subrahmanya in this Pooja.

As Adi Shankaracharya would have it, Subrahmanya does not seem to find a place in this specific Puja.

One may include Subrahmanya as well but then it would not be Panchayatana Puja.

None of the Deities as mentioned by the Acharya are to be omitted.

They are,

Surya,

Ganesha,

Devi,

Shiva and

Vishnu.

A paragraph from “Sankara’s Teachings’ by Sri Atmananda of Sri Ramakrishna Mutt on the subject:

“Sankara instituted the worship of all these five Gods, Sun, Ambika, Vishnu, Ganapati and Shiva all on the same pedestal. This emphasized the idea that these are not five different Gods, but they are the one God worshipped in five different forms in different parts of India. Some wrongly think Sankara taught only Jnana and had no place for Karma. Sankara held that the place of Jnana was all-important but he knew equally well that many could not give up Karma and so they should be taught the most beneficial forms of Karma. Thus it is that the Panchayatana Puja (the worship of five Gods) came into vogue in Smartha homes. The other name for this is Siva-Puja.’

 

Text of the Puja with procedure.

Panchayatana puja

The sheer love of God  expressed in Hinduism is amazing .

The texts of the Hindus, The Vedas do not advocate Idol worship.

But it is sanctioned as a tool for realizing the Self.

For more on this please refer my Post on Hinduism  Has Many Gods, Yes and No.

God is treated as a child, Mother, Father, Friend , Lover….

But in the case of Lord Krishna, whose existence is proved it is different.

He married Rukmini.

Rukmini expressed her Love for Krishna through a Love Letter and this is found in the Bhagavatham.

Author of the Text is Vyasa!

There was a difference of opinion as to whether the letter was in the Bhagavatham.

This was resolved by Krishna from His Temple in Guruvayur!

श्रुत्वा गुणान्‌ भुवनसुन्दर शृण्वतां ते
निर्विश्य कर्णविवरैर्हरतोऽङ्गतापं।
रूपं दृशं दृशिमतां अखिलार्थलाभं
त्वय्यच्युताविशति चित्तमपत्रपं मे॥१

śrutvā guṇān bhuvanasundara śṛṇvatāṁ te
nirviśya karṇavivarairharato’ṅgatāpaṁ|
rūpaṁ dṛśaṁ dṛśimatāṁ akhilārthalābhaṁ
tvayyacyutāviśati cittamapatrapaṁ me||1

का त्वा मुकुन्द महती कुलशीलरूप
विद्यावयोद्रविणदामभिरात्मतुल्यं।
धीरा पतिं कुलवती न वृणीत कन्या
काले नृसिंह नरलोकमनोऽभिरामं॥२

kā tvā mukunda mahatī kulaśīlarūpa
vidyāvayodraviṇadāmabhirātmatulyaṁ|
dhīrā patiṁ kulavatī na vṛṇīta kanyā
kāle nṛsiṁha naralokamano’bhirāmaṁ||2

तन्मे भवान्‌ खलु वृतः पतिरङ्ग जाया-
मात्मार्पितश्च भवतोऽत्र विभो विधेहि।
मा वीरभागमभिमर्शतु चैद्य आरात्-
गोमायुवद्‌ मृगपतेर्बलिमंबुजाक्ष॥३

tanme bhavān khalu vṛtaḥ patiraṅga jāyā-
mātmārpitaśca bhavato’tra vibho vidhehi|
mā vīrabhāgamabhimarśatu caidya ārat-
gomāyuvad mṛgapaterbalimaṁbujākṣa||3

पूर्तेष्टदत्तनियमव्रतदेवविप्र-
गुर्वर्च्चनादिभिरलं भगवान्‌ परेशः।
आराधितो यदि गदाग्रज एत्य पाणिं
गृह्ण्णातु मे न दमघोषसुतादयोऽन्न्ये॥४

pūrteṣṭadattaniyamavratadevavipra-
gurvarccanādibhiralaṁ bhagavān pareśaḥ|
ārādhito yadi gadāgraja etya pāṇiṁ
gṛhṇṇātu me na damaghoṣasutādayo’nnye||4

श्वोभाविनि त्वमजितोद्वहने विदर्भान्
गुप्तः समेत्य पृतनपतिभिः परीतः।
निर्म्मथ्य चैद्यमगधेन्द्रबलं प्रसह्य
मां राक्षसेन विधिनोद्वह वीर्यशुल्कां॥५

śvobhāvini tvamajitodvahane vidarbhān
guptaḥ sametya pṛtanapatibhiḥ parītaḥ|
nirmmathya caidyamagadhendrabalaṁ prasahya
māṁ rākṣasena vidhinodvaha vīryaśulkāṁ||5

अन्तःपुरान्तरचरीमनिहत्य बन्धुं
स्त्वामुद्वहे कथमिति प्रवदाम्युपायं।
पूर्वेद्युरस्ति महती कुलदेवियात्रा
यस्यां बहिर्न्नवावधूर्ग्गिरिजामुपेयात्॥६

antaḥpurāntaracarīmanihatya bandhuṁ
stvāmudvahe kathamiti pravadāmyupāyaṁ|
pūrvedyurasti mahatī kuladeviyātrā
yasyāṁ bahirnnavāvadhūrggirijāmupeyāt||6

यस्याङ्घ्रिपङ्कजरजस्नपनं महान्तो
वाञ्चन्त्युमापतिरिव्वत्मतमोपहत्यै
यर्ह्यम्बुजाक्ष न लभेय भवत्प्रादं
जह्यामसून् व्रतकृशान् शतजन्मभिः स्यात्॥७

yasyāṅghripaṅkajarajasnapanaṁ mahānto
vāñcantyumāpatirivvatmatamopahatyai
yarhyambujākṣa na labheya bhavatprādaṁ
jahyāmasūn vratakṛśān śatajanmabhiḥ syāt||7

(Srimad Bhagavatamahapuranam Dashamaskanadm
Chapter
52–slokas 37 to 43)

( free translation avoiding technicalities to the extent possible) is given below)
Krishna, you are the most attractive person in the whole
universe, and having listened to your glories which enter one’s
thought through the ears and destroys all woes of the body and
mind, and Oh Achyutha, my shameless mind dwells upon you
incapable of being wrenched away from your beautiful form
which is the ultimate thing for anyone to set his eyes upon and
that form bestows on all eternal fortune.

Oh Mukunda, which girl , who has some strength of mind, who
is born of high family , and in at least some way comparable to
you in upbringing, character beauty, education ,age, wealth
and status would not simply woo you by mind, you who looks
like a lion in human form (you were once Narasaimha) and
who is simply enchanting to the minds of all the living beings
in this world.

Therefore, you please accept me who has by my own will
accepted you as my husband in mind and has simply placed my
body and soul at your lotus feet, as you are the granter of all
boons. Now I belong to you. Don’t permit the king of Chedhi
the Sisupala to take possession of me. It will be like a wily
jackal stealing away the royal food earmarked for the
consumption of the Lion.

If it a fact that you, the Lord of the Universe, have been
worshiped by me with full devotion through good deeds like
digging of ponds and lakes, offering to fire, through gifts to
deserving people, through pilgrimages, through offerings to
Brahmins on auspicious occasions, through worship of
Brahmins, gods and preceptors, then you must immediately
reach here and take possession of me through accepting my
hands. My hands should not be dirtied by an evil fellow like
sisupala.

You Krishna the unconquerable, you please come over to
Vidharabha tomorrow itself without being noticed by anyone.
You must annihilate or defeat the Sisupala and his retinue with
your own valour and marry me through the rakshasa method
as a prize for your valour.

If you are wondering how you can enter the palace at Vidarbha
and accept me without causing damage to the lives of my
relatives, I shall inform you the right way. On the eve of the
marriage day there is a big procession to the Durga temple .
Accompanying that procession, me the bride, will be going to
the Parvati temple for worship.

My Krishna, gods like the husband of Uma are eagerly
awaiting to bathe themselves in the dust of your feet so that
their own weaknesses will be removed. If it is my fate that I
am not fortunate to get the protection from such great Krishna, I will kill myself through severe austerities in this life and will be born in hundreds of future lives till I attain your company.

Citation and reference.

Thank you Mr. Ananthanarayanan Vaidyanathan.

http://kanfusion.blogspot.in/2010/06/rukminis-letter-to-krishna-corrected.html

I was informed by a friend of mine that he is deluged with a forward quoting  an article in tennews that Corruption in India is because of Hindu culture, its religion and worship practices.

The article  bases its conclusions on the practice of people offering to God in Temples for favors received, instances where those closest to Kings betrayed the King for Money and that a Politician, J.Jayalalithaa, the present Chief Minister of Tamil Nadu coming back to power despite corruption charges.

No doubt Corruption is a serious virus and has to be eradicated in full.

I thought initially that this article in question is a well meaning one.

But I find that corruption is used as a tool to denigrate Hinduism and Hindu Culture.

I am informed that the article is being forwarded with regularity to young Indians.

The article seems to be by SHANTONU SEN and it is claimed that it was written 6 days ago.

A comment to the post states that,

‘

thisarticle appeared on some blogs 5 years ago. Now it appears as a New Zealander’s view. Tennews please share the source.

but since many Indians are taking this seriously… Observations on corruption are, sadly, correct.’

Which is true?

The name SHANTONU SEN is Bengali.

Is he a Naturalized New Zealander or a pseudonym  for India/Hindubaiter/

As this article seems to have been written, in the Catherine Mayo style, to denigrate Hindu culture rather than addressing the issue of corruption, let me answer point by point.

‘

Manu Smriti is one among the numerous texts on Ethics in Sanskrit and we have innumerable Regional  texts .

The following are from the Bible.

It is customary to to point out fingers at Brahmins for everything.

This has been the favorite pastime over the last 50 to 60 years.

Prior to this Brahmins were respected for their contribution to the society.

The advent of Moguls saw a shift in the approach of other communities in India towards the Brahmins.

The first act of forcing a Brahmin into circumcision  was committed by Mir Qasim, the Invader and he sowed the seeds of mistrust among the other communities about Brahmins

This was followed by all the subsequent rulers and the mistrust reached its zenith during the British regime in India.

The Britishers knew ,as well as the Portugese that so long as Brahmins were respected their religion,Christianity could not grow its roots in India.

The objective was clear to them,

Sow the mistrust and reap the rewards.

This has been paying dividends to such an extent that Brahmins are driven to their back foot, most of them migrating to other states in India where there is relatively less persecution.

Before I proceed further let me narrate two incidents.

About ten years back( I was 55 then), my family went to out maternal grandfathers Naive village, Anaippatti aks Akkaraippatti, Madurai District en route from Madurai to Palani,Tamil Nadu.

My grandfather was a zamindar of sorts then.

When I walked down the fields( we own nothing there in the village now), an elderly man of about 75 years, he was not a Brahmin, looked at me keenly and asked me thus.

Sir, Are you related to Ramaiya Sami ( Ramaih is my grandfathers known name and Sami is a term of repspect in Tamil),

‘Yes,I am his grandson.

Immediately he unwound the turban he had on his head and kept it in his armpit.

I asked him why he should do this.

He replied that it is a form of respect.

I asked him why should he do this and was it because he was scared  of my grandfather when he was alive.

He was greatly agitated and stated that that my grandfather was like the head of his Family and he would always to him for help and advice

And the he was what he was because of my grandfather .

and all the families in the village felt the same way.

I again asked him hat may be he was right but where was the necessity for him to do the honor to me.

He replied if he did not do that even God would not forgive him for his ingratitude!

This noble man , in modern society is classified as a Dalit

Another  instance.

I was on a pilgrimage tour to   and surrounding places.

I stayed in a small village nearby in the Home of elderly man of about 75 years.

When we went in , the elderly man( he is no more now), he was deeply engrossed in conversation with a man whom I came know later to be the Chief of the Village.

He was sitting on the floor while the elderly gentleman was reclining in an Easy chair.

When Lunch neared he asked all of us, including the Viilage Chief, to eat.

The man politely refused and stayed on while we ate.

He left after talking with the  elderly man.

When we left for the temple,we saw him near the end of the street.

I wished him and casually asked him as to why he did not eat along with us and whether it has any thing to do with us being Brahmins and being not one.

He replied that is out of respect for the elderly man’s Family and he felt that eating along with them, despite their invitations, would be a form or disrespect.

I asked him whether he was saying this as I was a guest of the house , he said that he was not bothered about my status and would do what he felt!

This is the amity among the Brahmins and the other communities including Dalits.

Yet people vilify Brahmins of practicing Untouchability.

Despite my vigorous checking, I am yet to find a Brahmin being accused of practicing  Untouchability and charged under the Law!

Other Communities have been named.

“Tamil Nadu figures among the top five States where a high number of cases of atrocities against Dalits have been reported in recent years, according to National Commission for Scheduled Castes (NCSC) Chairman P L Punia.

Statistics show that since 2011, as many as 213 people belonging to Scheduled Castes have been murdered in Tamil Nadu. This year, 16 Dalits have been killed in the State so far. Punia alleged that in many cases of atrocities, the police registered FIRs only after protests or directions from courts.

“In Tamil Nadu, the highest number of sexual assaults against Dalits was recorded in 2011 when 41 rape cases were registered. It came down to 22 in the next year and 23 in 2013. In 2014, the number of rape cases was 18 and in 2015 till now, 14 sexual assault cases against Dalit women had been recorded,” Punia said.

In the last five years, 6,074 cases were filed under Prevention of Atrocities against SC/ST Act. In 2011, it was as high as 1,170, while it was 1,372 in the year 2012 and 1,497 in 2013. In 2014, the number of cases registered under the Act was 1,464 and so far this year, 571 cases had been registered under the Act.

A State level vigilance committee and district level vigilance committees had been set up to review the atrocities against Dalits twice in every year. But the panels have not met after June 2013, Punia alleged.

“Nearly 60 to 70 per cent cases were closed without action and the conviction rate in Tamil Nadu is lower than the national average of 30 per cent,” he added.

On the Dalit engineering graduate Gokulraj’s murder case in Namakkal, Punia said the State DGP had told him that all the accused except one had been arrested and assured that he will be nabbed quickly. The Commission could not interfere in the investigation and it could do so only if it found the enquiry to be unsatisfactory

Source.

http://www.newindianexpress.com/cities/chennai/Atrocities-Against-Dalits-High-in-Tamil-Nadu-Claims-NCSC/2015/07/10/article2912101.ece

‘Even as Haryana reels from the gruesome murders of two dalit children who were burned alive on Tuesday, allegedly by upper caste men, new statistics show that crimes against dalits, or Scheduled Castes (SCs), rose 19 percent last year, on top of a 17 per cent increase in 2013.
In addition, as many as 744 dalits were murdered last year, up from 676 in 2013. In Haryana alone, 21 dalits were murdered in 2014.( http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Crimes-against-Dalits-rose-19-in-2014-murders-rose-to-744/articleshow/49488994.cms)

Image Credit.

http://image.slidesharecdn.com/ambedkarwomenandbuddhism-100302025540-phpapp01/95/ambedkarwomen-movement-and-buddhism-8-728.jpg?cb=1267498591

Not even a Single case against a Brahmin.

Then why Brahmins are being accused of practicing Untouchability?

Then the stock answer, is that Brahmins consider as Theettu, and wash themselves or the place where they( Sc/ST) sat.

This is a matter of.personal  habit, though some smritis suggest this and they are not being followed by every one.

Even here he does not ask to to wash yourself.

Nor does he ask you to go away.

Whom one should have interaction with is one’s personal choice.

Smritis do not have the authority  over the Vedas and the Vedas speak of Equality.

How many people can honestly say hat this is being practiced to day?

As I said it is a matter of personal choice.

If some one does not like you, do not go to him.

You can not force some one to love or respect you.

Even by Law.

This may sound harsh, but some one has to say it, as the misinformation is such to warrant a retort.

And who resorts to Honor Killing?

Brahmins?

Brahmins created Vedas to control other communities.

Vedas were not created, let alone by Brahmins.

The greatest mantra of the Hindus is the Gayatri Mantra was given by Sage Viswamitra, a Kshatriya.

The Gods whom we worship and are popular(?) are Krishna and Rama.

Rama was Kshatriya and Krishna a Cowherd!

In what way have Brahmins controlled the others?

Brahmins have been advisors to Kings, even to day they are, but they were requested by the Kings to be so.

If Brahmins were the people who devised the Vedas with the intention of controlling others, would a King, in his normal senses would have a Brahmin as an Advisor?

Another is Manu smriti.

This was a code of ethics mainly meant for Kings and written by a Kshatriya.

Manu was a Kshatriya.

Having been advisors to Kings right from Rama’s Days, what did the Brahmin Gurus get in return?

A Kingdom?

A dakshina, however small it might be, was accepted by a Brahmin.

If Brahmins are dangerous why do people seek their advice from them even today be it Karunanidhi and the other Brahmin Baiting gang?

One needs a Brahmin Doctor, Brahmin Lawyer, Auditor but public you will denigrate Brahmins?

Post on Brahmins’ condition in India follows.

http://socialjustice.nic.in/annualreports.php

I have written a few articles on  Shiva Linga in Mecca OM is 786,

Muslims Worship Shiv Lingam At Mecca Masjid Al Haraam Says Islamic Site,

Prophets Uncle wrote Siva Sthuthi, A Prayer On Lord Shiva,

Sapthapathi of the Marriage ceremony of the Hindus and Navagrahas in Arabia,

Aravasthan is Arabia and some more articles.

Inside Kaaba(left) and Shiva Abhishekam(Right)

The Prophet, after signing a treaty with tribes the Medina Treaty, stormed Mecca and destroyed 360 Idols housed there.

There is Kaaba Stone which is believed to have been of Abrahamic times.

People are not permitted to take videos or  photographs of the inside of the room.

The room seems to contain an Idol, the worship of which is prohibited in Islam.

Now let us see what a a surreptitiously taken video and an article  in a web site run by Pakistani Defense Think Tank say.

Video is below.

One can see an Idol resembling Shiv Linga there.

And watch the Video, and look at the clock for the time of opening the Room.

5.20 to 5.45!

Shivas Pradosha Time!

The article from Pakistan Defense Thin Tank Site.

‘Arabia is an abbreviation. The original word even today
is Arbasthan. It originates in Arvasthan. As observed earlier
Sanskrit “V” changes into “B”. Arva in Sanskrit means a horse.
Arvasthan signifies a land of horses, and as we all know Arabia
is famous for its horses.

In the 6th and 7th centuries A.D. a wave of effecting a
complete break with the past spread over West Asia. All links
with the past were broken, images smashed, scriptures des-
troyed, education discontinued and the entire West Asian
region took a plunge in abyssmal ignorance which lasted for
centuries thereafter and perhaps persists to a certain extent
even today because if in the whole world modern scientific and
educational developments find stubborn and entrenched resis-
tance anywhere it is in the West Asian countries. It is said
that the late Saudi Arabia ruler could not permit a radio
broadcasting station opened in his own capital because of
oposition from his Maulavis. He then resorted to a stratagem.
Once while he had his council of Maulavis in attendance he had
a radio set switched on to a program of Koranic recitation
broadcast from a small transmitting station set up earlier
without much ado. The Maulavis were delighted, so goes the
report, to hear the word of Allah coming to them as if from
nowhere. The king told them that what objections could they
have to a mechanism which broadcast the word of Allah. The
Maulavis agreed and the small radio broadcasting project was
at last ratified.

According to Encyclopaedia Britannica and Encyclø-
paedia Islamia the Arabs are ignorant of their own history of
the pre-Muslim era. By a strange euphemism they call it a
period of ignorance and darkness. Probably no other country
in the world has deliberately written off a 2,500 year period of
their own history by systematically stamping out and snapping
all links with the past. They have wiped the memories of pre-
Muslim era off their minds. So while they chose to remain
ignorant of their past ironically enough it is they who dub the
pre-Muslim era as a period of ignorance.

Fortunately we can still trace the history of that pre-
Islamic Arabia. It is a well known adage that there is no such
thing as foolproof destruction of all evidence. The pre-Islamic
history of Arabia is the story of Indian Kshatriyas over that
land, with the people following the Vedic way of life.

In our attempt to reconstruct the story of pre-Islamic
Arabia we begin with the name of the country itself. As
explained earlier the name is fully Sanskrit. Its central
pilgrim centre, Mecca is also a Sanskrit name. Makha in
Sanskrit signifies a sacrificial fire. Since Vedic fire worship
was prevalent all over West Asia in pre-Islamic days Makha
signifies the place which had an important shrine of fire
worship.

Coinciding with the annual pilgrimage of huge bazaar
used to spring up in Makha i.e. Mecca since times immemorial.
The annual pilgrimage of Muslims to Mecca is not at all an
innovation but a continuation of the ancient pilgrimage. This
fact is mentioned in encyclopedias.

VIKRAMADITYA

Evidence is now available that the whole of Arabia was
part of the great Indian King Vikramaditya’s vast empire. The
extent of Vikramaditya’s empire is one of the main reasons for
his world wide fame. Incidentally this also explains many
intriguing features about Arabia. It could be that
Vikramaditya himself had this peninsula named Arvasthan if
he was the first Indian monarch to capture it and bring it
under his sway

Citation and references source.

http://defence.pk/threads/exclusive-was-pre-islamic-arabia-hindu-nation-un-told-arabian-tales.265608/

Where was India, then called Bharata varsha located, geographically during  Dwapara Yuga,Mahabharata Period?

Now that the Rig Veda has been assigned to have been  around 5000 years ago and the Mahabharata date around 3000 BC, Kali Yuga around 3102 BC, one has to look at the world Map at that time as the present landmass is of no relevance today.

I am of the opinion that the dates of the Rig Veda might be pushed back  as evidence ,both literary and cross referencing cultural practices around the world indicate that the Rig Veda existed much earlier.

and

The sunken city of Lord Krishna, excavated off the Gujarat coast of India is being dated any where between 12000 to 3300 back.

the finding of Tamil port Poompuhar being assigned 20000 years ago reinforces the view.

Silappadikaaram, the Tamil epic speaks of Mahabharata and Krishna.

for more evidence please read my articles under Hinduism.

and we have the Ramayana to contend with.

Please read my article Rama’s death precedes Krishna’s by 250 years.

Ramayana is dated around barely around 250 years before Mahabharata, which does not stand to reason as it is reported to have taken place thousands of years before Mahabharata and this is corroborated by Astronomy, Archaeology, internal evidence in the Ramayana and external evidence in the Indian texts and corresponding foreign texts like the sumerian King List.

And this issue is partially resolved by the concept of the Cyclic Nature of Time.

Now to the issue at hand, that of the world geography during the period of Dwapara Yuga/Mahabharata battle.

The Mahabharata war was fought in Bharata varsha.

One is likely to get misled if they look at the present land mass called India, surrounded by three oceans and Himalayas in the North.

The geography was different then.

The Puranas define the boundary of Bharata varsha.

‘

उत्तरं यत्समुद्रस्य हिमाद्रेश्चैव दक्षिणम् ।
वर्षं तद् भारतं नाम भारती यत्र संततिः ।।

uttaraṃ yatsamudrasya himādreścaiva dakṣiṇam
varṣaṃ tadbhārataṃ nāma bhāratī yatra santatiḥ

“The country (varṣam) that lies north of the ocean and south of the snowy mountains is called Bhāratam; there dwell the descendants of Bharata.

-Vishnu purana.

What are the Oceans being spoken here and the Snowy Mountain?

The map of the world around 5000 BC is this, though there many preceding this but they are not considered because they considered the earth to be flat while this map considers it to be spherical.

World Map by Strabo 1815 reconstruction of the world map according to Strabo

Click to enlarge.

(Strabo (ca 64 BC – 24 AD) is mostly famous for his 17-volume work Geographica, which presented a descriptive history of people and places from different regions of the world known to his era. The Geographica first appeared in Western Europe in Rome as a Latin translation issued around 1469. Although Strabo referenced the antique Greek astronomers Eratosthenes and Hipparchus and acknowledged their astronomical and mathematical efforts towards geography, he claimed that a descriptive approach was more practical. Geographica provides a valuable source of information on the ancient world, especially when this information is corroborated by other sources. Within the books of Geographica is a map of Europe. Whole world maps according to Strabo are reconstructions from his written text.)’

Now look at the Map.

You  would find the landmass now we call India, then called Bharatvarsha extended beyond the Mountain in the North to another landmass marked as Scythia.

These Scythians were a part of Sanatana dharma and were called Milechas, that i those who did not follow fire worship.

They belonged to Sanatana dharma but did not follow fire worship mentioned in the vedas like the southerners, Dravidians, Tamils, who were followers of Sanatana dharma ,worshiped Shiva,Krishna,Durga, Subrahmanya,.varuna and Indra bot nor Agni, Fire.

Scythians.

Scythia (/ˈsɪθiə/; Ancient Greek: Σκυθική, Skythikē) was a region of Central Eurasia in classical antiquity, occupied by the Eastern Iranian Scythians, encompassing parts of Eastern Europe east of the Vistula River and Central Asia, with the eastern edges of the region vaguely defined by the Greeks. The Ancient Greeks gave the name Scythia (or Great Scythia) to all the lands north-east of Europe and the northern coast of the Black Sea.

The Scythians – the Greeks’ name for this initially nomadic people – inhabited Scythia from at least the 11th century BC to the 2nd century AD. Its location and extent varied over time but usually extended farther to the west than is indicated on the map opposite.^[7]

Scythia was a loose state that originated as early as 8th century BC. Little is known of them and their rulers. The most detailed western description is by Herodotus, though it is uncertain he ever went to Scythia. He says the Scythians’ own name for themselves was “Scoloti”.^[8] The Scythians became increasingly settled and wealthy on their western frontier with Greco-Roman civilization.’

Scythians descended from the tribes of Bharata varsha.

Scythian tribes.

• Androphagi
• Agathyrsi
• Agrippaeans
• Amyrgians
• Budini
• Dahae
• Geloni
• Gargarii
• Haraiva
• Legae
• Mathura
• Parni
• Saka
• Sakā Haumavargā
• Saka Tigrakhauda
• Suren

In the above list you may notice that  from Mathura onward to Suren are Sanskrit names as also Haraiva.

The other tribes can be traced back to some more tribes of Bharata Varsha.

So one can conclude that the landmass called Bharata Varsha included the whole landmass we see today including Europe, though it was called Milecha Desa.

It included Africa, Old Russia.

This accounts for the innumerable archaeological finds of Indian culture and Sanatna Dharma in all these places.

Look at this Map of Gondwana.

Gondwana, the Super Continent,

Americas Atlantis seems to be missing and I shall be writing on this.

Citation and references.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scythia#Scythian_tribes

https://atlantisjavasea.com/tag/tamraparni/   text and image credit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bharata_(emperor)

What is sound?

How is it created?

Sound is that which is perceived by the ears.

It is known by our recognising it.

As is the case with all Perception, be it sight,touch or smell.

Whether they have their existence other than being perceived by us is a great philosophical question and this issue is the reason for various ‘isms’

​
Idealism, Empiricism,Rationalism,Pragmatism and Logical Positivism.

For more on this please read my post Perception.

Now to Sound.

It exists in Nature and some sounds instill Fear, some serenity.

Thunder instils fearvwhile the slapping of the waves soothes.

Sounds by Nature has qualities inherent in them.

Sound, ,according to Science,is produced because of Vibration/Resonance.

There is also a view that Sound produces Resonance..

One may never know.

Hinduism assigns important position to Sound.

Universe is in Constant Motion and consequently Sound is present since The Universe was born.

In Hindu thought, the Universe is Eternal and so is Sound.

Sound coexists with Universe.

Sound has Rhythm and Scale.

Nadha is Sound and its Rhythm is Nature.

It is described as an Attribute of Reality in the Upanishads.

Reality is described as Nadha Brahman.

Sound is different from Ether or Akasa

Akasa is the carrier of Energy including Sound.

Akasa is the energy source.

Article on Akasa, Energy source, Hinduism and Quantum follows.

Sound is grasped intuitively and remembered mentally.

Sound as grasped from Ehter directly by the Rishis are known as Mantra.

These are mystical.

When we attempt to write the sound, it may not convey the sound grasped.

Language is born of Sound and not the other way.

Hence Mantras, including the Vedas, were transmitted orally.

Vedas, the Scripture of Hindus are to be leant bt Hearning and not by writing or Reading.

The intonation is to be perfect.

When people started using the method of writing the grasped sounds, Mantras, were expressed through alphabets,in Hinduism Sanskrit.

Sanskrit produces the near perfect intonaton of the sound, as an attribute of Reality and hence Sanskrit is called the language of Gods, Deva Basha.

There are different types of Mantras.

1. Mantras one follows as enjoined in the Vedas and by Family traditions as a part of daily activity.

2. This type is to ward off or tide over or get relief from a specific problem.

3. The Mantra for spiritual development.

The first one is mandatory, without which all the other Mantras would not yield better results.That is the reason it is insisted that at least Sandhyavandan is performed daily for the Mantras to deliver results

The second one that is the one used for a specific issue becomes of no use once the problem is resolved.

Preferable one learns Mantras through hearing.

However there are also written forms.

The letters in Sanskrit are called Aksharas, meaning limitless.

The combination of letters, Aksharas locked mystically become Mantras.

There are two types of Aksharas.

One is the letters is a Mantra and the other is

the Root letter to  which are bound the other letters of a Mantra.

This Root letter is called Beejakshara and it is held as a secret.

For Mantras to be efective one need not know the Beejaksharas.

Powerful slokascand Mantras deliver results because the Beejaksharas are embedded in them.

Soundaryalahari by Adi Shankaracharya contains 51 Aksharas of Devi embedded secretly in the slokas.

Mantrass should be initiated by a Guru.

In exceptional cases one can take the Mantra worshipping Family Deity and keepingShiva/Subrahmanya/Krishna as Guru.

Mantras are not to be translated.

Nor should one divulge the Mantra or thecreason for reciting it to others.

‘The bija mantras of the main chakras are given in the following table:

———————————————————
Mantras Chakra Physical location
—————————————–
Lam Mooladhara Perineum
Vam Swadhisthana Base of the spine
Ram Manipura Navel centre
Yam Anahata Heart centre
Ham Vishudhi Throat
Om Ajna Eyebrow centre
———————————————————–

Chakra Beej Mantras

A, Aa, E, Ee, O, Oo etc are all vowels and are spoken with sounds that come from within i.e: stomach, buzzing in the ear, nasal tones, tongue rolling etc. each of which stimulates one part of the body or other thereby corresponding to a chakra.
Chakras have different tones and move and different frequencies, the root being the slowest and most dense to Ajna or third eye chakra being the fastest . The beej mantra or single seed syllable  of the chakra balances the chakra and thereby purifies it.

(Ref.http://sciencebehindmantras.blogspot.in/2013/01/beej-mantras.html?m=1

Free Will or Determinism?

Which runs the individual’s life?

This is a question that engages all religious thoughts.

Do we have Free Will to do anything?

Or everything is preordained?

In the latter case, one does not accumulate sins because everything is determined.

Equally baffling is the application of Free Will.

Simple analysis  of the operation of Free Will in our Lives, without engaging ourselves about Free Will in philosophical terms, would show we are not free.

When we perform an action, choices presented to us are limited.

We do not have access to ALL options.

We act on the basis of choices presented to us at a given point of time.

Hence we have Free Will as well as we are Limited.

kāyena vācā manasendriyair vā
buddhyātmanā vānusṛta-svabhāvāt
karoti yad yat sakalaṁ parasmai
nārāyaṇāyeti samarpayet tat

Word for word:

kāyena — with the body; vācā — speech; manasā — mind; indriyaiḥ — senses; vā — or; buddhyā — with the intelligence; ātmanā — the purified consciousness; vā — or; anus ta — followed; svabhāvāt — according to one’s conditioned nature; karoti — one does; yat yat — whatever; sakalam — all; parasmai — to the Supreme;nārāyaṇāya iti — thinking, “This is for Nārāyaṇa”; samarpayet — he should offer; tat — that.

Translation:

In accordance with the particular nature one has acquired in conditioned life, whatever one does with body, words, mind, senses, intelligence or purified consciousness one should offer to the Supreme, thinking, “This is for the pleasure of Lord Nārāyaṇa.”

( Srimad Bhagvtham  11.2.36) explained by Rishaba to Nimi of Rama’s dynasty’

Sri Vaishnava sect (of which I’m a member) uses another verse called the Sattvika Tyaga for much the same purpose:

bhagavan eva svaniyamya sva-śeṣa-bhūtena maya
sva-ārādhana-eka-prayojanāya idam (name of the karma)
svasmai svaprītyai svayam eva karayati |

The auspicious deity, exerting control on himself, using me (his other part) as an instrument, himself effects , with his pleasure/ worship being the only purpose.

In the Bhagavad Gita, Arjuna tells Krishna,

‘You assert that the cycle of birth and death is because of one’s action and its repurcussions thereof.

If one were to desist from performing action, is he not freed from the results of action and its reactionKarma Phala?

Krishna replies,

‘ There is nothing in the world that is not Mine nor does anything take place withiut Me.

There is nothing I desire for everything is Mine.

Yet I am here performing Duties?

Why?

It is because of Swabhava, one’s disposition.

Once born , he is impelled by his disposition.

He can not escape from action, it may even be breathing.

Even that is an action and it attracts karma phala’ reaction.

So one is not free.

YET one is endowed with Buddhi, power of discrimination to choose from options available to him’

That’s it.

One has freedom to express himself , impelled by his disposition, which he can not avoid yet he has the choice to perform righteously.

Reference and citation.

http://www.vedabase.com/en/sb/11/2/36

http://hinduism.stackexchange.com/questions/8978/what-is-the-source-of-this-kayena-vacha-text-or-where-does-it-come-from

I have written a couple of articles  on Mantras ,Mantra an Overview,Mantra side effects,Why many Mantras for the same problem in addition to Mantras for  specific problems.

Mantra is pure sound which can not be transcribed.

The sounds are to be heard.

However Sanskrit Language has them in written form.

As these sounds are mystically locked, they are to be intoned correctly.

Mantras are of three genders.

Male, Female and Neuter.

Devi represents the feminine force. There are two beejas that represent Stri sakti – “ee” and “aa”. But more so, “ee”. Some of the names of Devi like Vamakshi refer directly to “ee” beeja. That is why Sri Suktam praises the mother as “eem”, apart from “sreem”. Sri Sukta is a part of RigVeda Khila, and not the core samhita. And unlike Samhita we can see the mantra sastra and beejas being directly mentioned.

As Saktas take pride in saying, “i” in “Siva” is said to be Devi, without who the Lord is a corpse. This follows directly from the beeja for Sakti being “ee”. This is also why Vaishnavas take pride in saying that worshiping Vishnu is equal to worshiping Devi and Siva together: Hara + “i” = Hari. However, both Hara, Hari seem to be derived from the Bhuvaneswari beeja “Hreem”.

Bhuvaneswari is the primal model of Sakta, with Vedic origin. She is the Aditi of Veda, the Mother of Aditya loka. This is also how She is a sibling of Vishnu/Aditya. Bhuvaneswari is the Mother and ruler of all the worlds. But by Bhuvaneswari beeja one means the one that corresponds to Aditya loka.

“Hreem” beeja can be found in the earliest of Vedic literature. Purusha Sukta of Rig Veda says “Hreesca te Lakshmeesca patnyau” – “hreem” and Lakshmi (sreem) are the wives of Purusha. Hreem is also called lajja beeja.

Shall write in detail.

Though there are general Mantra for prosperity, welfare,issue specific Mantras are to be decided based on the individual’s disposition, Swabhava analysed critically.

And this can be done by a Guru who would initiate and sets down procedures for chanting.

And  Guru shall reach out to you if you are a passionate Seeker.

He shall not demand anything from you and will accept what you offer.

You need to offer to the Guru what you can for nothing should be accepted free  it binds you in Karma.

Here I list some Beeja Mantras for academic information.

I shall be writing on the Beeja Mantras hidden in Mantras and Slokas including the Soundrylahari and Lalitha ahranma

Some beeja Mantras, however, may be chanted without  guru but taking Subrahmanya/Shiva/Krishna as

Guru.

Some Beejaksharas

SHRIM [shreem]: feminine; Lakshmi; seed sound for abundance

EIM [I’m]: feminine; Saraswati; seed sound for success in spiritual, artistic and scientific endeavors, music and education
KLIM [kleem]: androgynous; seed sound for attraction; often combined with other mantras
DUM [doom]: feminine; seed sound for protection
KRIM [kreem]: feminine; Kali;seed sound of creation and destruction
GUM [gum]: masculine; Ganesha; seed sound to remove obstacles and bring success in endeavors
GLAUM [glah- owm]: masculine; Ganesha; seed sound to remove obstacles between throat and base of spine
HAUM [howm]: masculine; Shiva; seed sound for transcendental consciousness
KSHRAUM [ksh-roum]: masculine; Narasimha-Vishnu; seed sound to rid stubborn evil situations and release pent up energies
HRIM [hreem]: androgynous; seed sound for clarity and seeing through the illusions of reality

CHAKRA BIJA MANTRAS

LAM [lahm]: seed sound for Muladhara, or root, chakra
VAM [vahm]: seed sound for Swadhisthana, or sacral, chakra
RAM [rahm]: seed sound for Manipura, or solar plexus chakra
YAM [yahm]: seed sound for Anahata, or heart, chakra
HUM [hoom]: seed sound for Vishuddha,or throat, chakra
OM [ohm]: seed sound for Ajna, or third-eye, chakra

“The supreme absolute (Parabrahman) exists in the human being (jivatma) as Shabda Brahman, the absolute as sound. Mantras are not prayers and the relationship of the letters of the Sanskrit alphabet, whether consonants or vowels, he says, point to the appearance of devata (divinity) in different forms. An uttered mantra is the manifestation of a more subtle sound while mantras themselves are forms of Kundalini. Mantras may be male, female or neutral. Female mantras are called Vidyas.

By Mantra the sought for (Sadhya) Devata appears, and by Siddhi therein is had vision of the three worlds. As the Mantra is in fact Devata, by practice thereof this is known. Not merely do the rhythmical vibrations of its sound regulate the unsteady vibrations of the sheaths of the worshipper, but therefrom the image of the Devata appears.” (op cit) Mantras are masculine (solar), feminine (lunar) or neuter. A female mantra is called a vidya, which means knowledge, while solar and neuter forms are called mantras. Mantras are only such if they were first revealed by a rishi or seer. Only then do they have life, according to the tradition. A mantra can only work if it is received from a guru who has, herself or himself, received it in an unbroken line from its first rishi. There are, however, exceptions to this, according to some tantras which prescribe methods of purification for mantras received in dream. And, according to Mahachinachara, the Kali mantra does not rely on the very elaborate rules usually found in the Tantras…

In describing mantras, the different tantrik texts always give their origin or rishi as well as the metre to pronounce them. While a mantra is divinity in sound form, a yantra is the same in geometrical form and an image the devata in gross form’

(Sir John Woodroffe’s collection of essays, Shakti and Shakta, chapter 24)

References and citations

http://www.astrojyoti.com/bijamantras.htm

http://www.hindupedia.com/en/Some_Primary_Mantra_Beejas#Kamaraja_Beeja

http://www.yogicastrology.com/articles/yoga/mantras.shtml

Vedas, the religious text of the Hindus are voluminous.

They are realized Truth, revealed by the Seers, who grasped them from Ether by intuition..

They talk about Reality, suggest and set forth methods to Realize the Self.

These are meant for Humanity and any one can follow them.

Considering the volume, the Rishis have organised them into various branches.

It takes a minimum of 12 years to learn the Vedas!

That too, one Veda among the Four, Rig, Yajur, Sama and Atharva.

And we have Yajur Veda, which has Shukla and Krishna Yajur.

As to the methods, though in essence the same, there are minor differences in detail so that people of different dispositions may follow.

Hinduism understands that there are  as many dispositions as are Human Beings, they have tried to suit the groups these texts to suit the groups which have common dispositions.

Each Veda has four parts.

Samhitas are hymns addressed to Gods.

The Samhitas and the Brahmanas form the Karma–Kanda segment of the Vedas.

They are concerned with the ceremonial rites and rituals.

Aranyakas are concerned more with knowledge ,Gnana and this is mainly for the semi retired from day to day activities.

Upanishads form the concluding portion of the Vedas and they enquire into the nature of Reality.

Aranyakas and Upanishads form the knowledge aspect of the Vedas,Gnana Kanda.

For details please read my articles on Vedas.

Each Veda a sections.branches, called Shakas.

‘A shakha (Sanskrit śākhā, “branch” or “limb”), is a Hindu theological school that specializes in learning certain Vedic texts, or else the traditional texts followed by such a school. An individual follower of a particular school or recension is called a śākhin. The term is also used in Hindu philosophy to refer to an adherent of a particular orthodox system’

Details of Shakas for Each Veda provided towards the close of the article.

These Shakas are explained in the Sutras,Aphorisms, and they have commentaries,Bhashyas on them as well.

Sutras first appear in the Brahmana and Aranyaka layer of Vedic literature. They grow in the Vedangas, such as the Shrauta Sutras and Kalpa Sutras. These were designed so that they can be easily communicated from a teacher to student, memorized by the recipient for discussion or self-study or as reference.

A sutra by itself is condensed shorthand, and the threads of syllable are difficult to decipher or understand, without associated scholarly Bhasya or deciphering commentary that fills in the “woof”.

Now to who should follow which Veda branch and Sutra?

Gotra or lineage is linked to these.

Gotra indicates the Rishi from whom one descended from, the Pravara lists the famous Rishis from the Gotra.

• Under Gotra, some branches may not be found here.for example, there are two lineage for Kasyapa.They are Kaasyapa, Avasthaara, Naitruva and there is Naithruva kassyapa Gotra as well.
• For more details om gotra check Brahmin Gotra List
• Eka Rishi and rare Gotras List
• * Some North Indian Texts do not include Apasthamba Sutra as Apasthamba wrote his Sutra by integrating Vedic texts and Tamil practices.
• Compiling the list is an arduous task as one has t check nline, books and also has to get information from Vedic scholars,for whom the tradition is Oral.
• Suggestions to improve with authentic sources, welcome.

These are the basics of Gotra, Shaka and Sutra link.

If one finds it difficult,one may trace them if they have any of the three, that is Gotra, Shaka, Sutra.

Rig Veda Shaka.

Śaunaka‘s Caraṇa-vyuha lists five shakhas for the Rig Veda, the Śākala, Bāṣkala, Aśvalāyana, Śaṅkhāyana, and Māṇḍukāyana of which only the Śākala and Bāṣkala and very few of Asvalayana are now extant. The Bashkala recension of the Rigveda has the Khilani which are not present in the Shakala text but is preserved in one Kashmir manuscript (now at Pune). The Shakala has the Aitareya-Brahmana, The Bashkala has the Kausitaki-Brahmana.

Shukla

Krishna

Sama Veda

Śaunaka‘s Caraṇa-vyuha lists twelve shakhas for the Sama Veda out of a thousand that are said to have once existed, but that of these only one or perhaps two are still extant. The two Samaveda recensions are the Jaiminiya and Kauthuma.

The Kauthuma shakha has the PB, SadvB, the Jaiminiya shakha has the Jaiminiya Brahmana.

Atharva Veda

Only one shakha of an original nine is now extant for the Atharvaveda. The nine sakhas were Paippalada, Tauda, Mauda, Shaunakiya, Jajala, Jalada, Brahmavada, Devadarsa and Chaarana-Vaidya.

The Shaunaka is the only shakha of the Atharvaveda for which both printed texts and an active oral tradition are known to still exist.

For the Atharvaveda, both the Shaunakiya and the Paippalada traditions contain textual corruptions, and the original text of the Atharvaveda may only be approximated from comparison between the two.

References , Citations and acknowledgements.

http://anudinam.org/2012/05/11/abhivadaye/http://anudinam.org/2012/05/11/abhivadaye/

The above is an excellent site with authentic information, especially for Sri Vaishnavas.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shakha#Rig_Veda

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sutra

 A reader wanted me t know the Gotra details of the Nairs of Kerala.

This is a complex issue.

If one removes the Goggles of regionalism and linguistic chauvinism, one can understand Indian history in its splendor.

Though the people of Kerala formed a part of Tamil kingdom Chera, the Nairs of Kerala had a social system of their own.

Nair comes from the word Nayaka meaning chieftain or a leader.

They were the leaders of a group of army of the Cheras.

‘The Nambudiri Brahmins were at the top of the ritual caste hierarchy and in that system outranked even the kings. They regarded all Nairs as shudra. Below the Nambudiris came the Tamil Brahmins and other later immigrants of the Brahmin varna. Beyond this, the precise ranking is subject to some difference in opinion. Kodoth has placed the Samantan caste below the Kshatriya rank but above the Nairs, but Gough considers that the Pushpagans and Chakyars, both of which were the highest ranked in the group of temple servants known as Ambalavasis, were ranked between the Brahmins and the Nairs, as were several other members of the Ambalavasi group. She also believes that some Nairs adopted the title of Samantan in order to emphasise their superiority over others in their caste. The unwillingness of the higher varnas to engage in what they considered to be the polluting activities of industrial and commercial activity has been cited as a reason for the region’s relatively limited economic development’

‘A theory has been proposed for the origins of the caste system in the Kerala region based on the actions of the Aryan Jains introducing such distinctions prior to the 8th-century AD. This argues that the Jains needed protection when they arrived in the area and recruited sympathetic local people to provide it. These people were then distinguished from others in the local population by their occupation as protectors, with the others all being classed as out-caste. The cross-disciplinary historian Cyriac Pullapilly describes that this meant they “… were given kshatriya functions, but only shudra status. Thus originated the Nair

Taking into consideration the caste  system of Sanatana Dharma was practiced by The Tamils , Cheras were Tamils,there was no discrimination in the Tamil land on the basis of caste , the views by western authors seem to be based on the Myth of Aryan dDravidian Theory which is now proved to be false and is a piece of disinformation to divide the people of India.

The fact that the Group who are currently called as Nairs were entrusted with Military duties , they were Kshatriyas.

The Nairs, Chera Period.

Some people think the name itself is derived from nayaka, an honorific meaning “leader of the people”, while others believe it stems from the community’s association with the Naga cult of serpent worship. Christopher Fuller, an anthropologist, has said that it is likely that the first reference to the Nair community was made by Pliny the Elder in his Natural History, dating from 77 AD. That work describes what is probably the Malabar coast area wherein could be found the “Nareae, who are shut in by the Capitalis range, the highest of all the mountains in India”. Fuller believes it probable that the Nareae referred to the Nairs and the Capitalis range is the Western Ghats.’

Matrilineal Society.

Nairs operated a matrilineal (marumakkathayam) joint family structure called tharavad, whereby descendant families of one common ancestress lived under a single roof. Tharavads consisting of 50 to 80 members were not uncommon and some with membership as high as 200 have been reported. Only the women lived in the main house; men lived in separate rooms^{[clarification needed]} and, on some occasions, lived in a separate house nearby. The families split on instances when they became unwieldy and during crisis among its members. When it split, the family property was separated along the female lines. The karnavan, the oldest male member in the tharavad, had the decision-making authority including the power to manage common property. Panikkar, a well-known writer from the Nair community, wrote in 1918 that,

Authority in the family is wielded by the eldest member, who is called karnavan. He has full control of the common property, and manages the income very much as he pleases. He arranges marriages (sambandhams) for the boys as well as the girls of the family. He had till lately full power (at least in practice) of alienating anything that belonged to them. His will was undisputed law. This is, perhaps, what is intended to be conveyed by the term Matri-potestas in communities of female descent. But it should be remembered that among the Nayars the autocrat of the family is not the mother, but the mother’s brother.

The husband visited the tharavad at night and left the following morning and he had no legal obligation to his children which lay entirely with the karnavan. In Nair families, young men and women about the same age were not allowed to talk to each other, unless the young man’s sister was considerably older than him. The wife of karnavan had an unusual relationship in his tharavad as she belonged to a different one and her interests lay there. Panikkar wrote that Karnavan loved his sister’s son more than his own and he believes it was due mainly to the instability of Nair marriages. Divorce rate was very high as both man and woman had equal right to terminate the marriage. Enangar was another family with which a tharavad remained closely related; a few such related families formed a social group whose members participated in all social activities. Nakane wrote in 1956 that tharavads as a functional unit had ceased to exist and large buildings that had once hosted large tharavads were occupied by just a few of its remnants.’

Being  a matrilinear society, the Gotra system must have been following the Mother’s Gotra.

Information is not available.

People may contribute with authenric source

The Nairs of Kerala and Bunts of Karnataka claim descent from the naga Śeṣa; these regions include the Nagavanshi clans who migrated from North India associated with the events referred to as the Sarpasatram. The Nairs were organized into various martial clans like Nambiar, Kiryathil Nair, Illathu Nair and Swaroopathil Nairs. The Illathu, Swaroopathil and Kiryathil Nairs have been classified as Kshatriyas of the Nagavanshi lineage Also claims as Nagavamsam in North costal region of Andhra pradesh state, where central government referred them under serial number 81 in NCBC (National Commission for Backward classed)

http://www.ncbc.nic.in/User_Panel/GazetteResolution.aspx?Value=mPICjsL1aLvYBtdZSrP4uO%2bploAhiJHMitEMCkgxxsH%2f7oa9L5Zf2o2HH3BmrgcE

However, Nairs believe them selves to Belong to Kasyapa Gotra.

‘Vansh/Dynasty : Nagavanshi
Gotra : Kashyapa
Caste : Kshatriya

The Nair Clans of Kerala and Bunts of tulu nadu are the indigenous descendants of Anantha also these regions include the Nagavanshi clans who migrated from North India associated with the events as Sarpasatram. The Nairs were organized into various martial clans like Nambiar and Kiryathil Nair. Currently, warrior Sections of the Nair (Malayala Kshatriya) caste and Bunts of Tulu nadu claim descent from the Nagvanshi dynasty. The Nagavanshi are the known as the Serpent Dynasty.

Nāgas originated from Kashyapa, father of Surya from whom clan of Suryawanshi kshatriyas evolved. The Nether World known as Pathala was the inhabitation of Nagas and Anantha as the Emperor of Naga, Sarpa, Uraga, and Pannaga. The Vedas do not mention Kshatriyas of either Suryavanshi, Chandravanshi, Nagavanshi, Agnivanshi or any such lineage. The Puranas constructed such genealogies. The Nāgvanshis acquired the status of Devas due to their excellent qualities, behavior and actions. Purānas mention Nāgas along with devas. Purānas mention of many Nāga Kingdoms. In ancient times Nāgas were the rulers of entire India. Mathura, Padmavati and Kantipur were capitals of Naga dynasty.

The worshipers of Nāga were supposedly known as Nāgā or Nāgil. Nair, Bunt and some Rajput and Jat clans claim to be of Nagvanshi origin.’

There are some interesting issues here.

1.People of north East India and some portions of central India belong to Nagavanshi.Now we find them in the deep south.

2.In ancient India, the landmass was different and the sea route from the North east of India to south of India was much shorter.

There are references that Ravana visited his In Laws place in central India frequently, his wife Mandodari was from India through this short route from Lanka.

So it needs some more research on this issue as to how the  migration took place, whether the Nagavanshis, who were also credited with having been the people of Patala Loka,deep south moved to North during the Great flood, when Vaivaswatha Manu, ancestor of Rama moved to Ayodhya.

3.The issue of the location of the Chera Capital Vanchi.

Considering this and the fact that Lemuria was the location of the early Tamil Kingdoms, I feel that the present theory that Karur was the Capital of Chera needs a look into.My stand is that it might have been located some where down in the Indian Ocean.

3.The present date assigned to Nairs and Kerala needs revision.

Chera King Udiyan Cheralatha,n particpated in the Mahabharata war.

Poompuhar,Tamil Nadu which speaks of Chera Kingdom, the author of Cilapadikaram was the king’s brother, and Poompuhar is dated 20,000 years ago it is safe to postulate that the Nairs of Kerala, who were in the army of the Cheras date back to some 18000 years ago

Shall dig more and write.

References and citations.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nair#Social_and_political_organisation

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chera_dynasty#Archaeological_sources

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nagavanshi

http://rajeshkvp.blogspot.in/2010/12/nair-gotra-lineage.html

Image credit.

http://historicalleys.blogspot.in/2009/08/on-origin-of-nairs.html

Indian philosophy and the Religion of the Hindus differ from other religions in that,

1. It has no founder.

2. It is not dogmatic and one can follow what one is inclined to.

3. It has no strict rules to follow in that it does not condemn you to Hell.

4. It does not proselytize.

5. No single individual is considered as the authority in matters relating Hinduism

6. It has no written texts and these have been transmitted orally for over five thousand years.

7.It accommodates all views including the Atheists; you can be an Atheist and still be A Hindu.

8.It fixes individual responsibility. You can not escape from the results of your actions by assigning it to some one else.

9. It treats all Beings and also the Insentient equally.

10. There is no procedure to become a Hindu nor is there any question of expelling some one from Hinduism and readmitting.

11. Indian philosophy is based on Intuition and experience , though Logic and other tools of knowledge are used to verify or support Knowledge gained by Intuition.

The systems of Indian philosophy have the following components.

a) Theory of Knowledge or Epistemology.

The systems decide first what knowledge is and proceed what instruments to use to gain Knowledge.

There are some instruments of Knowledge through which we gain knowledge.

Knowledge is taken at its core meaning, to be aware of.

That it is correct, incorrect, Right or Wrong comes later when judgement are made.

Facts are differentiated from Impression of Facts.

Prathyaksha. Is what is known through senses.

b)Anumana is Inference.

c)Upamana is Comparison , with similar things.

d) Tharka ,  Logic where Knowledge is derived from Logical steps through Syllogism.

e) Sabda , from Testimony fro others.

f) Intuition.

The tools of knowledge followed by a system decides its philosophy..

Systems of Indian Philosophy, Religion.

In India Religion and Philosophy are interwoven.

There is no separation of the two.

A philosophy not worth practicing is not considered at all.

Religion is to be experienced and there is no such thing as Practising Religion and non practicing religion.

Many believe, even Hindus, that the Vedas alone constitute Indian Philosophy.

Not true.

We have Jainism, Buddhism, Buddhism , Carvakas and Ajivakas whih form a parf Indian Philosophy.

They existed along with the Vedas.

And they were accepted.

Another feature of Hinduism is the definition of Atheism.

It has nothing to do with the belief in God.

One can be a Hindu and remain an Atheist ,like Carvakas, Buddhist,Ajivaka.

These are totally opposed to Vedas and deny their authority.

Orthodox systems are those which belive in the Authoroty of the Vedas.

Those, like Jainism are called Heterodox and they do not believe in the Vedas.

Even among the Orthodox systems which believe in the authority of the Vedas deny God, like The Nyaya System.

Philosophical systems are called Darsana.

Darśana, also darśana or darshanam, Sanskrit: दर्शन from dṛś, meaning “to see”, vision, apparition, or glimpse.

Though there are other meanings like The darsana of God/Holy men , in Indian Philosophy the term Darsana is used in the meaning meaning provided above.

It may be called as Perspective.

Reality or Truth has many facets.

One discerns what one is inclined to

The six systems of Hinduism are.

They are called the Shad (six) Darsana

Nyaya,the realism school emphasizing analytics and logic,

Vaiseshika,the naturalism school with atomistic themes and related to the Nyaya schoo

Sankhya, the rationalism school with dualism and atheistic themes,

Yoga,school similar to Samkhya but accepts personally defined theistic themes,

Purva Mimamsa or  Mimamsa), the ritualism school with Vedic exegesis and philology emphasis

Uttara Mimasa or Vedanta, the Upanishadic tradition, with many sub-schools ranging from dualism to non-dualism.

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It has nothing to do with the belief in God.

One can be a Hindu and remain an Atheist ,like Carvakas, Buddhist,Ajivaka.

These are totally opposed to Vedas and deny their authority.

Orthodox systems are those which believe in the Authority of the Vedas.

Those, like Jainism are called Heterodox and they do not believe in the Vedas.

Even among the Orthodox systems which believe in the authority of the Vedas deny God, like The Nyaya System.

Please read my articles on FAQs of Hinduism.

I shall e writing in detail on each of these systems in detail.

Reference and citation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_philosophy

Lord Narayana describes the inner meaning and procedures of the Gayatri Manta to Sage  Narada.

The Gayatri mantra is from the Rig Veda.

The Gāyatrī Mantra, also known as the Sāvitrī mantra, is a highly revered mantra from the Rig Veda (Mandala 3.62.10)

Narayana explains Gayatri from Yajur, Sama and Atharva Vedas.

I am providing the Armor of the Gayatri Mantra.

This forms the Nyasa.

This is the Kavacha one has before chanting the Gayatri Mantra.

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Now hear the Risis, Chhandas, etc., of this Kavacha :–

Brahmâ, Visnu and Mahes’vara are the Risis;

the Rik, Yajus, Sâma and Atharva Vedas are the Chhandas;

the Paramâ Kalâ Gâyatrî of the nature of Brahmâ is the Devatâ;

“Tat” in Gâyatrî is the Vîja; “Bharga” is the S’akti; and “Dhîyah” is the Kîlaka; and its viniyoga (application) is in getting the Moksa (liberation.).

With the first four syllables touch the heart; with the next three letters touch the head;

with the next four letters touch the tuft on the crown of the head; with the next three

letters on the Kavacha; with the next four letters on the eyes and with the last four letters

make the Nyâsa, all over the body repeating “Astrâya Phat,” O Nârada! Hear now the

Dhyânam of Gâyatrî, that grants all desires.

The Gâyatrî Devî has five faces; one of which is of white colour; and the other four is of pearl, Vidruma, golden, and Nîlakântamani colour respectively.

Each face has got three eyes; on the head there is a crown of jewels and the digit of the Moon is shining there. Her body is composed of the twenty-four tattvas.

She has ten hands :– On the top right and left hands there are two lotuses; lower down, there are disc and conch shell; lower down, there are rope and skull; lower down, there are noose and goad; and on the bottom hands right and left she is making signs of “No fear” and “ready to grant boons.”

Thus meditating on S’rî Gâyatrî, one is to recite the Kavacha thus :–

Let the Gâyatrî Devî protect my front; Sâvitrî Devî protect my right;

the Sandhyâ Devî, my back and

the Devî Sarasvatî, my left.

Let my Mother Pârvatî Devî protect my quarters.

Let Jalas’âyinî protect the southeast;

Yâtudhâna Bhayankarî protect my South-west;

Pavamânavilâsinî my north-west;

Rudrarûpinî Rudrânî protect my north-east.

Let Brahmânî protect my top and

Vaisnavî protect my nether regions

. Let the word “Tat” in the Gâyatrî protect my legs;

“Savituh” protect my Knees;

“Varenyam,” protect my loins;

“Bhargah,” my navel.

Let “Devasya” protect my heart;

“Dhîmahî” protect my neck;

“Dhîyah,” protect my eyes;

“Yah,” protect my forehead;

“Nah” protect my head; and

“Prachodayât” protect the tuft on the crown of my head.

Again let the “Tat” of the twenty-four syllabled Gâyatrî protect my head;

“Sa,” protect my forehead;

“Vi” protect my eyes;

“Tu” my cheeks;

“Va,” protect my nostrils;

“Re,” my mouth;

“ni” protect my upper lip;

“Yah” protect my lower lip;

“Bha” within my face;

“rgo,” protect my cheeks;

“De,” my throat; “Va” my shoulders;

“Sya” my right hand;

“Dhi” my navel;

“ma,” my heart,

“Hi,” my belly;

“Dhî,” my navel;

“Yo” my loins;

“Yo”, my anus;

“nah,” my thighs,

“Pra,” my Knees;

“Cho” my shanks ,

“Da” my heels;

“Yâ” my legs;

and let “at” protect all my sides.

O Nârada! This divine Kavacha of the Devî Gâyatrî can baffle hundreds and thousands of obstructions and evils; can grant sixty-four Kalâs and liberation. By the glory of this Kavacha, man can become free from all evils and can attain the state of Brahmâ. Moreover whoever reads or hears this acquires the fruits of making a gift of a thousand cows.

( Devi Bhaavatham,Book 12,Chapter 3, Slokas  to 25)

Source.

Devi Bhagavatham

Sometime back, I have written tha there is an attempt to legitimise Christianity and Islam by portraying that these religions were foreseen in the Purana.

Bhavishya Purana talks about the coming of The Prophet and Islam.

In my opinion this is an interpolation.

Please read my article on this.

Similarly there is misinformation going around that Jesus came to Himalayas,studied Yoga/Vedas ,Died in Kashmir and that the Tomb of Jesus is in Kashmir.

I have debunked this claim in my article.

However when one one examines History it is found that,

1.The Yadava tribes migrated to middle east((77 families) .

2.Manu is Noah Yayati Yadava Yehuda Judaism from Hinduism

3.Tamil artiifact with Tamil inscription was found in Red Sea Port I BC

4.Laksmi was Pre  Jewish Canaanite Goddess

5.Vatican city resembles Shiva Linga Aerial view

6.Vatican is Shiva Temple?

Now I have come across information that Saint Paul’s Catgedral was Krishna’s temple.

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St. Paul’s cathedral in London rebuilt by Christopher Wren after the great fire of London over 300 years ago still retains several pre-Christian traditions.

St. Paul’s used to be a Gopaul alias Chrisn temple…

Here are some of the proofs:

Its central altar is separated from the backside wall by a narrow perambulatory passage.

The main altar enshrines not Jesus but the eight directional Vedic cross……

The Star of Lakshmi is a special octagram, a regular compound polygon, represented by Schläfli symbol {8/2} or 2{4}, made from two congruent squares with the same center at 45° angles, and figures in Hinduism, where it represents Ashtalakshmi, the eight forms, or “kinds of wealth”, of the goddess Lakshmi.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_of_Lakshmi
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Paul’s_Cathedral..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rub_El_Hizb
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_of_Venus

In front of the altar, some distance away is a golden eagle on a stand.

The eagle is the mount of Lord Chrisn.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garuda
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lectern

Overhead on the curved rafter ledge supporting the ceiling are Latin prayers beginning with the Vedic incantation OM painted in bold block capitals.

Along the walls inside are sketched in bold relief sages and others taking a holy dip in the river Ganga…

Overhead on the curved rafter ledge supporting the ceiling are Latin prayers beginning with the Vedic incantation OM painted in bold block capitals.

Along the walls inside are sketched in bold relief sages and others taking a holy dip in the river Ganga.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Paul%27s_Cathedral

Omnes means All people,Every one in Latin.

Reference and citation.

https://malagabay.wordpress.com/2016/07/17/catastrophic-english-christianity-as-a-vedic-cult-2/

I have stated in many of my articles that the Vedas were Revealed/composed in the area what we call Arctic now.

I have made passing reference to this point.

As many wanted a detailed article, I am elaborating on why Arctic could have been the home of the Vedic people,why the Vedas could not have been written in the present India and who the people were who composed,rather compiled the Vedas.

As to the people who composed it can remain a hypothesis unless one is a Realized soul to have Truth revealed.

I am attempting with my limited knowledge and the inadequate tool called Logic to explain the issue.

Why the Vedas could not have been from the present Indian landmass.

1.The Vedas refer repeatedly to long periods of day long periods of night.

They had composed Hymns on Ushas,on Dawn and on Night,Ratri Suktha.

They also speak of days in yet another context ,extending for 60 Nazhigais,which corresponds to our normal day.

If only normal day and night duration was only the time scale,why the obsession and necessity of composing these Sukthas?

Long nights propel one to yearn for Dawn and Long nights vice versa.

And the Veda speaks of Devayana and Pitruyana, the Pitru yana, the former denoting the Devas,Divine beings,the latter the deceased ancestors.

Ayana means Path as in Dakshinayana or Uttarayana,the ovement of s

Sun from North to South and from North to South.

Thecreferral points they take for this movement of the Sun are the,Tropic of Cancer and Capricorn,both related closely to the Poles.

2. The Uttarayana, movement to North period is considered auspicious, because the warmth reaches Arctic durig this period.

3.When the Indian texts speak of Bharatavarsha, they do not men India.

They refer to India as Bharata Kanda.

For such an advanced thinkers using two terms for the same land is unthinkable.

Please read my article Bharatavarsha is not India.

Bharatavarsha encopmpassed a larger mass and Bharata Kanda,ruled by Bharata is only a part.

4. When one checks the Vedic and Puranic Texts, one does not find specific Hymns on Patriotism or reference to a single country.

The refrain has been Swadeso Bhuvanathrayam, All the Three worlds are mine.

Benediction is not for a country, but Sarve Janaas Sukino Bhavanthu, May All be Happy or Hymn seeking welfare of beings animate and inanimate.

The reason is that Sanatana Dharma was the onlyvway of Life in the early life of the earth.

5.Southern direction is being treated as some thing beyond more like alien territory though the people from the south were practicing Sanatana Dharma with variations.

They were called as Dravida, the Southerners or Dasyus though the later term means one who became wayward.

6.Sending people to South was Banishment as a punishment, as Visvamitra sent his 51  sons to Dravida Desa as a punishment.

7.We have Sage Agastya who has been a bridge between the Nort and South

To be continued in Part 2